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« on: December 27, 2008, 08:01:41 AM » |
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« Last Edit: December 30, 2008, 10:52:48 PM by Carl Brown »
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Jim McKee
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« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2008, 09:55:38 AM » |
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ooops...well they were close
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Carl Brown
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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2008, 10:23:26 AM » |
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And the more the OSB swells the bigger the crack will get.
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Jay Markanich
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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2008, 04:23:52 AM » |
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We had dinner out last night at Macaroni Grill. The interior had a series of decorative arches and columns made from this same faux stone. I looked at it carefully - no cracks, no mortar joint separation or cracking, none of the stones sound loose when tapped on. I thought that this is pretty good stuff to use - INSIDE.
Is there any study as to how long this faux stone is going to last? It seems to me that there are so many variables in play - substrate, substrate prep, how the mesh is installed (IF it is installed), quality of the mortar mix, quality of the application, stone placement - there is so much that can go wrong! Any failure with any of those steps or variables can cause failure, leaking, mold, you name it. I think this is going to prove to be real bad stuff in the next few years.
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« Last Edit: December 28, 2008, 04:43:35 AM by Jay Markanich »
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Carl Brown
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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2008, 08:55:47 AM » |
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Faux Stone is nothing more than a very heavy stucco with exposed aggregate.
The weight of it will make the problems with it made before problems with stucco for the most part. imo
Flashing, window installation, kickouts al very big issues. Along with it being installed on lath that is not 3.4 a lot of the lath around here that is marked 2.5 feels like 1.75.
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Dale Duffy
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« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2008, 11:09:05 AM » |
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Is that manufactured wood siding butted up against the stone?
Well I won't even say what an IR CAM would show in that corner....I'd bet my life there is water in that wall..!!
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Dale Duffy
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« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2008, 11:13:44 AM » |
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It's actually an easy but expensive repair.
Tear it all down and start at the top, work your way down, and DO IT RIGHT...!!
The second installation I would recommend someone who knows what their doing make the REPAIR...!!
How old is this house?....couple years?.....probably took that long to show the failure at the wall system...!!
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Carl Brown
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« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2008, 11:18:17 AM » |
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The trim under the gutter is smart trim kinda like OSB.
It says right in their specs it is not to come into contact with cement products.
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Dale Duffy
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« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2008, 11:25:41 AM » |
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The trim under the gutter is smart trim kinda like OSB.
It says right in their specs it is not to come into contact with cement products.
Besides the end cut not being sealed with paint where the "Smart Trim" or better known as pressed-mulch board is soaking up water next to the stone, I still bet there is water getting inside that wall because of no moisture barrier, or installed wrong, we can see the kick-out isn't long enough to even be worth taking the time to install it, just tear it down and start over...shame, but that's the only fix now, which will cost thousands to do it right, when the entire corner of the house could of easily been constructed correctly the first time, but a bunch of idiots slapping the place together as fast as possible now have caused thousands in repairs, and they don't even care.. |
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Dale Duffy
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« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2008, 11:32:03 AM » |
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I'd bet that straight crack is the OSB swelling from water making it crack nice and straight, right at the joint at the OSB.
How old is this house Carl...looks fairly new from the picture anyway.
This located near you?
How did you get the pictures, someone call wanting to know why the stone was cracking?
Shame, but the stone has nothing to do with the crack, behind it, well, start OVER...!!
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Carl Brown
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« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2008, 11:33:58 AM » |
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And when you do care and understand that you have made every possible mistake and try to make a stand and make changes you get put out of business real quick.
Some people can learn from their mistakes.
Some people can even learn from mistakes made by others.
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Carl Brown
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« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2008, 11:36:21 AM » |
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Some one sent me the pictures.
I have ask for more pictures showing the front and maybe the roof area above the problem area.
No doubt the problem started with the carpenters.
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Carl Brown
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« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2008, 11:41:24 AM » |
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Then the roofers.
Then the stucco/faux stone installers.
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Dale Duffy
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« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2008, 11:45:57 AM » |
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The PROBLEM started from the lack of supervision by a competent person, with unskilled labor, with no supervision equals PROBLEMS, major problems which now will cost thousands to repair when it could have been constructed correctly the first time at no additional cost, just DO IT RIGHT..!!
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Carl Brown
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« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2008, 11:53:37 AM » |
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Most likely the repairs will be made by the same kind of company that made the mistakes in the first place.
They just do not get it around here.
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